{"id":2501,"date":"2014-10-21T15:43:11","date_gmt":"2014-10-21T15:43:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/iarpp.net\/?post_type=article&#038;p=2501"},"modified":"2014-11-11T15:34:03","modified_gmt":"2014-11-11T15:34:03","slug":"psycho-political-iarpp-online-discussion-or-why-war","status":"publish","type":"article","link":"https:\/\/iarpp.net\/thesite\/article\/psycho-political-iarpp-online-discussion-or-why-war\/","title":{"rendered":"Psycho-Political IARPP Online Discussion  Or &#8220;Why War?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"center\">by<b> Rina Lazar <\/b>(Israel)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\"><a href=\"http:\/\/iarpp.net\/thesite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/lazarphoto1014www.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2502 alignleft\" alt=\"lazarphoto1014www\" src=\"http:\/\/iarpp.net\/thesite\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/lazarphoto1014www.jpg\" width=\"200\" height=\"263\" \/><\/a>As an Israeli and a member of IARPP I found myself during the last war feeling so pained and confused and alone among my beloved friends, colleagues, and family, that I took on the mission\u2014and I really do mean <i>mission<\/i>\u2014that I was asked to do, to moderate a special online discussion talking about Israel and Gaza in psychoanalysis. \u00a0The launching of this listserv discussion was a prompt and specific response from IARPP to a need that arose after Jeremy Safran posted Eyal Rozmarin&#8217;s paper, \u201cTalking about Gaza in Psychoanalysis,\u201d on our listserv. \u00a0I added the name of Israel to Eyal&#8217;s title since Israel is always there, deep inside.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">This online discussion was a new experience for all of us, organizers and participants alike, and a risky one. Talking about politics is not the best way to be on friendly terms with virtual and real companions, especially in times of war. \u00a0It is hard to articulate one\u2019s thoughts in a way that can be heard by others, and to really listen to other voices.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">We launched this online discussion on the 15<sup>th<\/sup> of August without any predetermined structure or time limit.\u00a0 Very soon into it there were around 210 participants in this group.\u00a0 Most were silent participants, though this silence was a very active state of mind.\u00a0 During our discussion we talked about ideas of homeland, identities, loyalty and attachments, perpetrators and victims, freedom fighters and fundamentalism, right and wrong, and fears and threats.\u00a0 Other ideas our group took up included history and time, the \u201cpresent moment of the past,\u201d trauma, \u201cchosen trauma,\u201d \u201cpainful privilege,\u201d nationality, the Holocaust, and the Nakba. Our group was comprised of professionals and individuals with very relevant personal histories, including Jews, Christians, and one Palestinian.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">We grappled with understanding our involvement in this bloody place. \u00a0Why especially is Israel and Gaza such a focal point for so many people around the world? \u00a0One can find evil and misery anywhere, so what draws us all to this \u201cPromised Land,\u201d even those who have never been there or have decided to leave?\u00a0 Why? \u00a0What is the meaning of being \u201cchosen,\u201d and how does it feel to be a non-Jew native of this place, the \u201cunchosen&#8221;? \u00a0What does it mean to be stuck in the midst of religious wars in the beginning of the 21st century?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">Looking back at the process we went through, I find it helpful to share excerpts from some of the many thoughtful and impactful statements made during our discussion:<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">\u201cI feel such deep gratitude for the amazing space that this virtual conversation has opened.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">\u201cI have asked myself if it&#8217;s mad or courageous to launch such a psycho-political e-list in the midst of another war in the Middle East, and concluded that it&#8217;s both.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">\u201cI too am very grateful for this opportunity for a sincere and close discussion, sometimes pretty heated, which does not hide behind professional clich\u00e9. I loved the impolite and rough turns it took sometimes, and the ways we found to get back to a benign dialogue. (By the way, do \u201cpolitics\u201d and \u201cpolite\u201d come from the same word stem? \u00a0Seems quite reasonable.) \u00a0It\u2019s also fascinating for me to see the shift we took in the last posts toward deep reflection into the process unfolding between us. I guess it couldn\u2019t have happened without us going through these misunderstandings, entanglements and resolutions. Again\u2026 it makes me understand the necessity to sustain and survive relational clashes in order to gain the capacity to reflect.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">\u201cLike several of you, I have the feeling that something has changed. I\u2019m sure it\u2019s partly the cessation of \u2018all-out destructiveness\u2019 and acute anguish that cried out for \u2018a voice like thunder and a tongue to drown the throat of war,\u2019 as Blake wrote, long ago. The need for a safe place to discuss its personal impact on us (directly or through identification with our patients or \u2018our people\u2019) may therefore be diminishing. Thank goodness for that!\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">\u201cI have become mellow\u2026fluffy\u2026spongy\u2026.whatever\u2026 I began participating in the midst of the fighting, with a resolve to represent, in this \u2018liberal, leftist, non-understanding, highly tilted, non-patient (I mean having no patience), on the verge of being anti-Semitic (by Semites too)\u2019 forum, a \u2018proud non-apologetic Israeli-Jewish\u2019 stance\u2026But now I got mellow!&#8230;I feel we went through something here.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"left\">I apologize for quoting without naming the authors of these posts. \u00a0These are a few voices from our large group, very personal representatives of others we speak for and through. \u00a0We related to each other and to our context in real time.\u00a0 I thank all of the subscribers for being there and IARPP for being such a vibrant and holding frame for our minds in times of terror.\u00a0 Time will tell how we&#8217;ll move on. We have traveled a long way since we began.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u201cThe past is never\u00a0dead.\u00a0 It isn\u2019t even past.\u201d\u00a0 \u2013William Faulkner [1]\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Rina Lazar<br \/>\nRamot Naftali 9<br \/>\nTel Aviv 69278<br \/>\nIsrael<br \/>\n<a href=\"&#109;&#x61;&#105;&#x6c;&#116;&#x6f;:&#x72;l&#97;&#x7a;&#97;&#x72;&#64;&#x70;o&#x73;t&#46;&#x74;&#97;&#x75;&#46;&#x61;&#99;&#x2e;i&#x6c;\">&#114;&#x6c;a&#x7a;&#x61;&#114;&#x40;p&#x6f;&#x73;&#116;&#x2e;t&#x61;&#x75;&#46;&#x61;c&#x2e;&#x69;&#108;<\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"text-align: left;\">\n[1] This quotation is also a contribution of one of the participants<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rina Lazar<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2713,"menu_order":4,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"issuem_issue":[36],"issuem_issue_categories":[],"issuem_issue_tags":[],"class_list":["post-2501","article","type-article","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","issuem_issue-volume-13-number-3-november-2014"],"aioseo_notices":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.9 - 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